April 01, 2008
daily UTC chat log for Anywherebb (Postline 6.1.30)
20:15, Shadowlord> I just wanted it to remember my preferences and such :P
20:27, Megagun has no preferences.
20:28, Megagun> Or rather, I'm using the defaults.
21:26, Cryoburner> Pretty unlikely, unless Alex's cat's true identity is really Rotor-Kitty!
21:53, Hello! :)> Aargh! It's a knockoff! http://ez17.ez-web-hosting.com/~anywhere/
21:53, Hello! :) whispers: :P
22:37, Xenomorph whispers: I still don't know how you whisper a smiley.
02:02, Lightning4 whispers: You could 'whisper' a wink, maybe.
03:23, Cryoburner whispers: >^..^<
03:54, Duskesko> Agh! I have gas and it hurts! I feel like a neverending source of methane!
03:55, Chad> Go power a car.
04:22, Duskesko> My Gawd... I think I probably could.
04:39, Duskesko> The time came, finally. Poor toilet.
04:41, Duskesko> wait
04:42, Duskesko> 4:22 to 4:39
04:42, Duskesko> I spent a lot of time in the bathroom... o_o My bathroom is home to a temporal flux!
05:20, Skinnymon whispers: As I was saying, fellow Mods and Admins, sometimes we have <i>fine quality</i> comments on Frespych... ;)
05:29, Duskesko> Hell yea! I contribute to the classy nature of this here community!
05:30, Fth> www.questionablecontent.net www.qwantz.com www.xkcd.com This is awesome ^^
05:32, Duskesko> O.o whoa
05:33, Duskesko> that is some wild shit
08:41, Raptorjedi> http://mail.google.com/mail/help/customtime/index.html Awesome
08:56, Zjc92> Haha! So I can now email my past self? :P
09:03, Raptorjedi> Sure :P
09:12, Neuzd> I was thinking it's a funny nice joke, then I read the date: March 31st. Lame.
09:22, Neuzd> This disclaimer is great : '*The term "Every time" is used loosely here to represent the number 10.'
09:32, Zjc92> Genius.
16:06, Stargazer whispers: You know what day it is when penguins can fly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrxmpihCjqw :P
16:19, Buuks> I like www.youtube.com aprils fools joke. :D
16:19, Buuks> What about this one:
16:19, Buuks> http://www.google.com/virgle/index.html
16:24, Raptorjedi> Youtubes is great
16:29, Neuzd> I like wikipedia's. Very stylish.
16:32, Neuzd> "On this day.." and "Did you know.." sections sport article summaries written as they were pranks.
18:12, Megagun> http://0x44.com/postline/cd/pngs/zIkioMs3FVbjBbWen74.png - Frespych at top = blasphemy.
18:18, Duskesko> i don't much care for it up top either
18:43, Neuzd> There, fixed: http://www.0x44.com/postline/cd/pngs/zIkioMs3FVbjBbWeCy7i71.png
18:49, Duskesko lulz @ that.
20:29, Hello! :) stabs Megagun and Neuzd for the 300kb pngs. PNGs are not the universal image solution, a properly optimized JPG would look better and be smaller.
20:32, Duskesko agrees.
20:32, Megagun> And be sufferage of artefacting.
20:33, Duskesko> "properly" optimized
20:33, Duskesko> lossless compression isn't always possible
20:34, Megagun> Also, where is my 300kb PNG?
20:34, Megagun> All mine are like 4kb
20:34, Duskesko stabs Megagun for using a Mac.
20:34, Duskesko> you posted a link in frespych
20:34, Megagun> What? I'm not using a mac! I dislike macs!
20:34, Hello! :)> Um... that screen capture you posted was 307kb. I'd say it can qualify as 300kb.
20:35, Duskesko> 18:12, Megagun> http://0x44.com/postline/cd/pngs/zIkioMs3FVbjBbWen74.png - Frespych at top = blasphemy.
20:35, Megagun> What screen captu.. oh.. That was neuzd's, not mine.
20:36, Duskesko> oh, sorry then. want to help us burn neuzd at the stake?
20:36, Megagun uses PNGout on that PNg and wonders how big it'll be.
20:37, Duskesko> NOT AS BIG AS YO MOMMA! i dunno XD
20:38, Hello! :)> Ok, yeah, I guess it is Neuzd's image. Mega, JPG when properly optimized will be smaller and have no artifacts, the trick is properly optimizing it.
20:38, Megagun> JPG with no artifacts. Ha ha ha ha. Yeah sure.
20:38, Duskesko> there are almost always artifacts.
20:38, Megagun managed to crunch it down to 285kb using optipng.
20:39, Fth> Don't talk about artifacts or in the future treasure hunters will come and dig up the interwebs!
20:39, Hello! :)> That's still a waste of space.
20:39, Megagun> IIRC the only way to produce an artifactless JPG is to make it single-color, or by placing your blocks right..
20:41, Duskesko> well, you can compress to maximum. i think jpeg supports lossless
20:43, Duskesko> since we all seem so obsessed with this, maybe we should do nothing but vector images by hand.
20:44, Fth> Nah, no lossless interpreter
20:44, Fth> Plus it doesn't really work because computer monitors can't depict reality perfectly
20:44, Duskesko> WELL THEN. From now on, everyone is required to purchase a tablet and hand draw vector images.
20:44, Fth> So it's even more impossible for it to depict something perfect
20:45, Duskesko> Who cares about perfection! We just want exact pixel for pixel compression.
20:46, Duskesko> I say we invent the .blh image format that uses black holes to store data.
20:47, Duskesko> Or alter our eyes to only support 8 colors.
20:50, Hello! :)> http://0x44.com/postline/cd/pngs/GbqgD2v0kh92y9hhu6FdWWDgMLWeAvNfZD4.png < See best JPEG compression has no artifacts
20:50, Hello! :) whispers: (316kb image made with Paint, yeah, yeah, but I used png to prove a point)
20:51, Megagun> Which one of those three is PNG/lossless? (as in non-jpg)
20:52, Hello! :)> The one without the preview check box checked (top-most & right-most)
20:53, Hello! :)> Eh, that would be top-most & left-most.
20:53, Megagun> The one in the 'middle' has some artefacting. Try making 'lines' of the top bar white and you'll see..
20:54, Hello! :)> Middle one is with best compression. Bottom right is with the maximum Photoshop allows on their slider.
20:54, Hello! :)> Make what lines?
20:56, Megagun> http://mooses.nl/temp/compression.png
21:06, Duskesko> yeap, png is all about dropping the color depth it seems
21:06, Hello! :)> http://0x44.com/postline/cd/pngs/GbqgD2v0kh92y9hhCjvetlhh5oUhuW3hIkw4CdHhm 1.png < Ok, that image with 4 different compression levels. Top right is no compression, Bottom left is best looking compression
21:07, Hello! :)> http://0x44.com/postline/cd/pngs/GbqgD2v0kh92y9hhu6FdFzFdsp9f91.png < Is the best and the non-compressed side by side
21:08, Megagun> Although it looks artifactless, there are still compression artifacts...
21:09, Hello! :)> I'll post another example, after I finish making it.
21:10, Megagun> Anyways, I'll have to go now.. Bye.
21:15, Hello! :)> meh: cd/zips/Hello! :)/jpegexample
22:12, Cryoburner whispers: C-disk links only work in the forums. :P
22:14, Granpire viking man> Why can I only access ABB through 0x44.com? Am I the only oneÉ
22:14, Hello! :) knows that, that's why I didn't do the whole < > part.
22:14, Hello! :)> GPV, no, anywherebb.com usually expires around this time.
22:15, Hello! :) meant: GVM
22:17, Granpire viking man> Oh, I was wondering why there was nothing in the About ABB forums.