May 20, 2008
daily UTC chat log for Anywherebb (Postline 6.1.30)

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22:07, Tacogeddon takes the prize and stomps on it.
22:08, Arrowgrab> But I'll continue hovering around these forums, just beyond the edge of your perception, to emerge now and again.
22:09, Arrowgrab> So, see you all around and cheers.
22:41, Cryoburner> My theory: Tasty Light.
22:41, Cryoburner whispers: Erm...
22:51, Tacogeddon> Time Warp!
23:55, Cryoburner> My theory: Tasty Warp.
00:54, Tacogeddon just won a GTA Helicopter race.
01:00, Raptorjedi> I can't fly a helicopter at all.
01:01, Raptorjedi> I'm so bad at it, that I've crashed one within five seconds of taking off. I hadn't even left the helicopter tours area.
01:01, Tacogeddon> It was a race of whoever could smash the hell out of their fellow racer anyway. :P
01:03, Tacogeddon> It was quite fun to blast the tail off another guy's chopper and watch the cockpit whirl to ground.
01:17, Deanfrz> any jets in this new GTA?
01:18, Tacogeddon> Nope, just helis.
01:18, Deanfrz> and more importantly, ejector seats?(something majorly missing from GTA:SA)
01:18, Tacogeddon> Sadly, they even removed the parachute.
01:19, Deanfrz> okay, remind me not to even bother pirating it when it comes to PC
01:20, Deanfrz> jees, it's like GTA:SA was the only flight sim where you can eject, and then run around and find a new plane
01:21, Tacogeddon> I'm not really sure why the would remove the chute, I've made some low altitude ragdoll jumps and survived with like half of my HP. :P
01:33, Deanfrz> I know why, to take all the fun out of the game.
01:33, Tacogeddon> Yes, it's an anti-fun agenda. :P
01:38, Deanfrz> They should put a sarlacc in GTA:5
01:39, Deanfrz> I want on for my backyard, why not GTA?
01:39, Tacogeddon> Make it an MMO while you're at it! :P
01:41, Deanfrz> That's what it really needs, but set in Mega Prime, from XCOM:APOC
01:42, Deanfrz> for the flying cars and collapsing buildings
02:25, Duskesko> and women
02:36, Chad> Women are not on the menu.
02:37, Chad> All women have been recalled, something about lead in the processing area causing malfunctions with thought process and being clueless.
02:41, Duskesko> how about collapsing buildings caused by women? http://files.3dm3.com/competition/cggirls/Psycho_Girlfriend.jpg
02:42, Chad> It could happen. I fear that day.
04:01, Chad tries to design some shirts...
04:43, Deanfrz> I designed a T-shirt
04:44, Deanfrz> got 400,000 of them
04:45, Deanfrz> unfortunatly, they were all based around this awesome name that was better than Cryoburner
04:45, Deanfrz> which he quickly deleted
04:45, Deanfrz> ah Cyroburnur
04:56, Deanfrz> HEY cryo, unban my IP subnet, I wanna still have that Cyro guy around. I promise I'll only bring him out during the festival of parallel universes.
04:57, Deanfrz> plus, how the heck did my ip subnet get banned?
04:58, Deanfrz> I just naturally assumed it was during my little revolution the other day
04:59, Deanfrz> but wouldnt that mean I couldnt log on?
04:59, Cryoburner> If your IP subnet were banned, you wouldn't be talking here right now. :P
05:00, Deanfrz> I'm going to make an experiment
05:01, Deanfrz> okay, I didnt read that page well enough
05:03, Deanfrz> Y! slurp is a gross name for a spider, also, I've never met another website that tells you what's crawling it and when
05:07, Cryoburner whispers: I have.
05:09, Chad is too white a nerdy.
05:09, Cryoburner whispers: That is true.
05:12, Cryoburner whispers: You need to be more hip. Try wearing your hat backwards.
05:13, Chad> Buy 5! http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microids-Xtreme-Roller/dp/B0007XXEYE
05:14, Cryoburner> Too late... "Only 2 left in stock--order soon."
05:14, Chad> £749.96 is such a deal!
05:15, Cryoburner> "9 used & new available from £0.01"
05:15, Chad> Buying Direct from Amazon is the best way. :P
05:21, Cryoburner> That guy on the cover looks so rad. Too bad it's the PAL version. I'll have to get new TVs to play it on. :\
05:21, Cryoburner whispers: And I might need a playstation, too.
05:26, Chad> Sleepy time, goodnighty.
05:27, Cryoburner> See you!
11:36, Starchaser> lol. I was just looking back on the 18th I wasn't actually excited I was shocked.
12:04, Cryoburner> Tip: Unplug your keyboard before submersing in water.
16:06, Stargazer> http://arxiv.org/abs/0805.2429 communicating with neutrinos? A fascinating possibility. ^.^
16:10, Raptorjedi> Now, I don't understand much about neutrinos, but wouldn't that form of communication have the same limitations as everything else we use? (not being able to go faster than the speed of light)
16:12, Stargazer> This isn't about FTL communication. Read the article for details: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0805/0805.2429v1.pdf
16:13, Raptorjedi> Well okay, that's what I wasn't sure about :P It seems like something that would be a sort of a novelty at first, since it isn't any faster than using what we already do.
16:14, Raptorjedi> Definately something to look for with SETI, like the article mentions.
16:15, Raptorjedi> Plus, at least for now, neutrinos are difficult to detect.
16:16, Stargazer> The handy thing about neutrinos is that they can pass through anything, unhindered. Photons are far more easily reflected, scrambled and blocked by masses
16:17, Raptorjedi> There is that. The article also mentions that the band we would be using with them would be otherwise noise free.
16:18, Stargazer> As the article also describes that we may pick up extraterrestrial neutrino communications with next generation detectors. These are in the making right now. ^.^
16:18, Raptorjedi> So at least with LOOKING for neutrino communications, there wouldn't be any wonder if accidently picked up a radio station from Earth, or if it was just basic background noise.
16:19, Raptorjedi> They could also be placed in places that don't need to be a radio quiet zone.
16:21, Raptorjedi> But, there is a problem with that as well. Would another alien race come to the same idea we have, using them to communicate? They might have never thought of it, or found something even better to use.
16:24, Raptorjedi can't wait for the 25th
16:24, Stargazer> Same thing can be said about radio, of course. It is all hypothetical, but at least if we do find anomolous patterns in a neutrino detector, we now have a prediction for what may form those. :)
16:25, Stargazer> The bad side (or maybe it's good) about neutrino communication is that we wouldn't have any way to respond. There is no way we can generate the required energy with todays technology
16:26, Raptorjedi> Well I suspect most races in the universe have figured out radio.
16:27, Raptorjedi> Unless they have some unique form of communication that is only native to their planet. Like some kind of lifeform that spans the planet, and generates energy that they tap into to send messages.
16:29, Raptorjedi> Actually, that's a pretty cool idea. I bet someone has already come up with something like it.
16:30, Stargazer> Humankind is still a very young species in the history of the universe. We discovered electromagnetism a hundred years ago, other species may have moved far beyond that point millions of years earlier.
16:31, Raptorjedi> Yeah, but what I'm saying is that most races in the universe will probably have figured out how to use radio at some point in their evolution as a species.
16:31, Raptorjedi> If they haven't, they either haven't reached that stage yet, or they have something unique to their planet.
16:33, Raptorjedi> Neutrino communication may not even be feasable until a race has access to massive amounts of energy, probably around the same time they get a Dyson Sphere.
16:34, Stargazer> I didn't mean that other species had not discovered radio, just that they might not be using it anymore, since they have far better means of communication
16:34, Raptorjedi> Well obviously :P
16:34, Raptorjedi> We're saying the same thing, except two different ways :P
16:35, Chad> Aliens still use sail mail.
16:35, Stargazer> :P
16:36, Raptorjedi> Some are probably still using drums and smoke signals :P
16:37, Chad> Darn it... I want that daily Woot shirt...
16:38, Stargazer whispers: I still wouldn't mind one of them planck-scale wormholes, myself. ;)
16:38, Stargazer whispers: or, I mean, photon scale, obviously.
16:38, Raptorjedi> I'd love to have a wormhole as much as the next person, and a decent spaceship and immortality to go along with it :P
16:40, Chad has those things.
16:41, Raptorjedi> Can I have them Chad? You don't seem to be using them. :P
16:42, Chad> Actually I'm floating close to Alpha Centauri at the moment. :P
16:44, Raptorjedi> Really though, immortality wouldn't be so bad. There is enough of the universe that one could live forever and not see everything. And in the event that the universe actually does have an end, one could always make a new universe and go there.
16:45, Raptorjedi> That's how I predict things will be near the end of our universe. The surviving races of our local galactic cluster will get together and make themselves a new universe.
16:45, Stargazer whispers: we are all immortal; energy can never vanish. :P
16:46, Stargazer whispers: unfortunaly, life can. ._.
16:46, Raptorjedi> That's a boring type of immortality.
16:46, Raptorjedi> As energy, I can't see the Milky Way and Andromeda collide.
16:47, Raptorjedi> I can participate, but the part that matters won't exist anymore :P
16:47, Stargazer> How do you know? do you remember how it was like before you became a human? :D
16:48, Raptorjedi> That's kinda why I believe there is something after death aside from just ceasing to be alive. There may not be a God as we know it or anything like that, but I like to think there is something else.
16:49, Raptorjedi> Sure, it just makes dying a little easier to accept thinking that, but whatever. :P
16:51, Raptorjedi> I'm not really one who wants to die. Which is also why I'm glad to live when I do, if predictions are right, we could hit a technological singularity in my lifetime, and death could be conquered.
16:53, Stargazer> I admit it is hard to imagine living in this moment, and then not in the next. I mean, imagining a void is easy, but the transition between thinking and not... That is the big problem.
16:54, Raptorjedi> For me, the worst is not knowing. We can't ever really know what happens when we die.
16:55, Raptorjedi> Religion, science, they say what they think happens. Either something, or nothing, but you can't prove what happens.
16:56, Chad> Your gonna die and your gonna like it! :P
16:57, Fth> Well, yes, you are, moments before death you get like kilograms of endorphins shot into your bloodstream :P
16:58, Stargazer whispers: then again, there is the possibility we live in infite chaos, and everything we think we remember is just an illusion created by entropy. In this case, the past, the future, even the instant is a lie. I don't like that idea, though. It is possible.
16:58, Stargazer meant: infinite
16:58, Fth is a subscriber of the ceasing to exist school of thinking.
16:58, Raptorjedi> Chaos is simply unpredictability, so technically we do sorta live in infinate chaos :P
16:59, Fth> I think it's... a bit more complicated than that, RJ
16:59, Fth> The definition of chaos and entropy, I mean
17:00, Raptorjedi shrugs
17:01, Raptorjedi> And I might die, but damn it, I intend to fight it the whole way :P
17:01, Stargazer> But the fact that there appears to be order, may prove that time as we know had an ordered beginning, and that entropy has increased with the universe. If time was infinite, entropy would be infinite as well.
17:03, Fth> RJ, that's a given, you're human. With you 100% there :P
17:03, Fth> Anyway, the thing to end us will probably be the next big bang
17:03, Fth> Which, according to new theories, there might actually be lots of
17:03, Fth> I mean... relatively speaking... :P
17:04, Raptorjedi remains positive.
17:04, Stargazer whispers: or the Great Void, or the Great Fade
17:05, Raptorjedi> Pretty much every ending for the universe ends with it being uninhabitable
17:05, Fth> I love Planescape for basically incorporating all these different philosophies ^^
17:05, Fth> We don't know if the universe is inhabitable to begin with.
17:05, Fth> It might all be full of evil radiation and we're just lucky
17:06, Stargazer is hoping for a ressurrecting universe. The Great Void would just be so... boring. :P
17:06, Fth> not really
17:06, Raptorjedi> I just think we will pool our resources with the folks in our local cluster and leave this universe for another.
17:06, Fth> there'd be no one left to be bored by it
17:07, Stargazer> True, but with all this cool things happing right now, only to end in a black night of nothingness? That's an anticlimax if ever there was one. :P
17:08, Stargazer meant: these, not this
17:08, Raptorjedi> Because pretty much everyone says that eventually galaxies will travel away from each other until they will be little islands in big voids. Our little cluster of galaxies will be all there is after a while until the universe ends.
17:08, Fth> There'd be nobody to ejoy a climax either.
17:08, Fth meant: enjoy
17:09, Fth> actually, the galaxies won't be travelling away from each other, the space between them is just growing bigger :P
17:09, Raptorjedi> Who knows, by the time the universe ends, not only could we figure out how to make and travel to new universes, we could make ones that don't have an end like ours does.
17:09, Fth> RJ, we probably know how, we just don't have the energy
17:10, Stargazer recommends the book Ring by Stephen Baxter. Now there's a man with visions. :D
17:10, Raptorjedi> Know how now?
17:10, Fth> Like, we know how to make wormholes for example
17:10, Raptorjedi> I love Baxter's books. Don't think I've read that one, but I might have.
17:11, Fth> But we'd need about the energy of the sun... and a way to channel it. Or something like that at least
17:11, Raptorjedi checks wikipedia
17:11, Raptorjedi> Nope, I haven't gotten around to reading the Xeelee Sequence yet.
17:12, Stargazer> In "Ring" Baxter writes about a massive ring made of cosmic strings, a gateway to a younger universe, with galaxies as building blocks. Pretty darn cool.
17:12, Raptorjedi> SHHHHHHHH
17:12, Raptorjedi kicks Gazer
17:12, Raptorjedi> No spoilers!
17:13, Stargazer whispers: sorry ._.
17:13, Chad> So many ideas and theories... Yet not enough time to find out in our life.
17:15, Raptorjedi> push
17:15, Raptorjedi pushes away the spoilers
17:15, Stargazer> At least, we do get to live in a time of great transitions. That's something at least...
17:17, Raptorjedi meant: crosses his fingers* Come on technological singularity!
17:17, Raptorjedi> Bah
17:17, Raptorjedi> I forgot about that command.
17:18, Stargazer whispers: Imagine living in the dark ages, where you got hanged, drowned or tortured just for asking questions. Glad they got past that point long before my birth.
17:18, Chad> It'll be interesting to see if the future I believe in comes about in my life time. Seems as though it will.
17:18, Raptorjedi> Sorry Chad, no apocalypse :P
17:19, Chad> Well when the Government turns on Religion, don't come running to me. :P
17:20, Raptorjedi> While I wouldn't agree with that turn of events (and I don't believe that will happen in the US as long as it IS the US), I don't have a religion so I don't think that would impact me as much as it would you :P
17:21, Stargazer> Oh, the things as we know them will probably come to an end, but it won't be the end of the world. :P
17:21, Chad> Actually it'll be against the religions that take part in political affairs. Doesn't effect me at the begining.
17:22, Raptorjedi> Well there is this thing called separation of church and state. People seem to forget that these days.
17:23, Raptorjedi> It's been that way since well, a really long time.
17:23, Stargazer> I can't see why religion just be banished. If people want to in something believe, let them. We don't need a new dark age.
17:23, Stargazer meant: believe in something, obviously. :P
17:23, Raptorjedi> Channeling Yoda there Gazer? :P
17:24, Stargazer> Heh. :P
17:24, Chad> Well most wars and conflicts have been started by Religion though, which is kind of sad to think about.
17:25, Raptorjedi> Not lately though. Now wars are about territory, racial disagreements, and things like oil.
17:26, Raptorjedi> Not counting the middle east, we haven't really had any religious wars, and certainly not any major ones for a long time.
17:27, Cryoburner> What about The Great Sandwich War of 1983?
17:27, Stargazer> Mankind will always find something to fight about, unfortunatly...
17:28, Fth> Well, living out aggression releases endorphins
17:28, Fth> It's kinda hard to argue against endorphins
17:36, Cryoburner> Or Endorfun. That was a pretty cool game.
18:44, Stargazer> And now for something completely different: the Google Earth flying mountainbike: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3QK1eu3q3E Actually looks quite fun. :D
18:51, Megagun> "love the way he's working on a mac, PC's really should just be for useless women doing accounts for their husbands at home and exchanging recipes on dial up!!1!!!!!11!"
20:16, Magnulus> Huuuuhhh... ?
20:18, Magnulus> Oh, right. The video. Virgin Media is a piece of shit, so I'm waiting for the video to load and will still be waiting for at least a half hour or so...
20:18, Chad> Wouldn't doing something for your husband be contrary to the idea of them being "useless"? :P
20:20, Magnulus> No, because her husband is useless, so actually DOING something that benefits him is - by proxy - useless.
20:22, Chad> The internet is full of stupid people... No one can seem to think for themselves anymore... Its sad... (Not talking about anyone here though...)
20:24, Raptorjedi> I disagree. Stupid people just stand out more :P
20:26, Chad> The smart one's tend to just sit back and shake there head in discuss at the internet. :P
20:27, Megagun meant: ones
20:27, Megagun meant: disgust
20:27, Chad> Shh! :P
20:29, Magnulus meant: their
20:29, Magnulus meant: heads
20:29, Megagun meant: It's
20:29, Magnulus> That sentence was hilarious. ^_^
20:30, Megagun meant: Internet
20:31, Megagun watches as Bensel arrives too late. :P
20:32, Chad> I'm being attacked by the Grammar Police!