June 25, 2008
daily UTC chat log for Anywherebb (Postline 6.1.30)
13:03, Starchaser> woah were in similar timezones
13:04, Starchaser> Night Languidiir
17:17, Trillbo> hallo
19:56, Cryoburner> holo
21:01, Zjc92> hobo
23:20, Chad> Million+ Spore creatures.... woo...
23:37, Cryoburner> Meh...
01:17, Chad> I love FireFox 3's full screen mode. It uses it all! :P
01:21, Languidiir> I like that you can highlight words and URLS and then drag them around.
01:23, Chad> SEt gfx.color_management.enabled to true in about:config to get clearer/richer images.
01:24, Languidiir> Clearer, eh? How so?
01:26, Cryoburner whispers: Magic.
01:27, Chad> F3 kinda dulls images for speed.
01:28, Chad> http://www.dria.org/wordpress/archives/2008/04/29/633/
01:33, Languidiir> Enabled. Not much of a noticeable difference.
01:47, Chad> I can see it since I use Photoshop alot...
01:51, Languidiir> Photoshop is too expensive for me.
02:37, Chad> Hmm... Another Open Mobile foundation...
02:38, Chad> Poor OpenMoko... First Google came, now Symbian...
03:28, Languidiir> Raptor, congrats on being the first one on Frespych besides Alex
03:34, Raptorjedi> Uhhh, okay..
03:38, Languidiir> Remember? It's in the first log.
03:39, Raptorjedi> Yeah, but it's hardly something to congratulate over. It wasn't a contest.
03:41, Languidiir> Just take the compliment. :P
03:44, Tom> It's interesting that out of the first ten members, only one (Lkraider) has been gone for a year or more as of now, and one (Ginja_ninja) for six months, but the rest still visit, either frequently or sporadically.
03:45, Raptorjedi> Ginja is still around, just not on the forums. He stops by IRC from time to time. He's busy with college.
03:45, Raptorjedi> And I dunno what happened to LKRaider.
03:46, Chad> Life.
03:46, Raptorjedi> Probably yeah, but he never said anything that I remember.
03:47, Chad> No idea, doesn't list his last post's.
03:48, Languidiir> no apostrophe for a plural noun.
03:49, Chad> WoW was supposed to be free... interesting... :P
03:50, Tom> actually it's considered by some to be correct for some acronyms, but this is debatable.
03:50, Tom> see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe#Use_in_forming_certain_plurals
03:54, Raptorjedi> I saw that too. I'm actually kinda glad it isn't. Azeroth wouldn't look right with ads for McDonalds and Pepsi in it.
04:11, Chad> Well, most F2P games don't have ads.
04:12, Raptorjedi> Well according to Rob Pardo, it was going to be supported by ads
04:13, Chad is playing Dream Of Mirror Online atm... :P Free! Woo! :P
04:14, Raptorjedi> I wonder what the teaser on www.blizzard.com is about. Some suspect it has something to do with the next WoW expansion (which makes sense, the ice and all) others about Diablo 3
04:15, Raptorjedi> Whatever it is, it's changing every day. I figure on the last day, it will break apart to reveal whatever is hidden behind the ice.
04:15, Cryoburner> Hopefully candy.
04:16, Chad> I'd sure like some candy.
04:16, Raptorjedi> For once, I find myself hoping it's something new. I'd really like to see Blizzard try making a new IP, instead of making new games for the same three games
04:17, Chad> I think its Diablo, with all the "ruin" stuff.
04:17, Chad> But I'd like to see something new too.
04:17, Raptorjedi> Yeah, that's what a lot of people think too, but remember. Frostmourn has runes on it.
04:17, Raptorjedi> So it could just as easily be about Warcraft.
04:18, Raptorjedi meant: frostmourne, forgot the E
04:19, Raptorjedi> I really would like to see them expand into something new though. Or go back to their old games like The Lost Vikings, Blackthorne or Rock and Roll Racing.
04:19, Chad> Maybe its a Diablo MMO! :P
04:21, Raptorjedi> Yeah, there are "confirmations" of a new MMO. Blizzard is looking for people to work on Next-Gen MMOs, but that could just mean a WoW expansion.
04:22, Raptorjedi> They've said things like "No, it is an unannounced Next-Gen MMO. And that doesn't mean an expansion for World of Warcraft either." But I don't believe it.
04:22, Cryoburner> I don't see why they'd need a new MMO anytime soon.
04:24, Cryoburner> Unless it's something completely different targetted at non-MMO players, it would be difficult to expand their market any further.
04:24, Chad> More Monies! Always can use more!
04:24, Raptorjedi> Well the rumors I have heard floating around is they are thinking about making Diablo 3 sorta like Hellgate: London.
04:24, Languidiir> My friend refuses to admit that Noctis is good without any settlement possibilities or interactions with planets
04:24, Raptorjedi> Where there is free online play, but added features if you pay.
04:25, Cryoburner> Wasn't Hellgate london already like a 3D Diablo 2? :P
04:25, Raptorjedi> Pretty much, yeah.
04:26, Raptorjedi> Flagship Studios other game, Mythos, is more like Diablo than Hellgate is though.
04:26, Cryoburner> I could definately see them coming out with a new Diablo relatively soon.
04:26, Cryoburner whispers: Make that definitely. :P
04:27, Languidiir> Is settlement/building actually possible in a game like Noctis?
04:28, Raptorjedi> Another thing that hints at Diablo 3 is recently, they snatched up Diablo3.com, which was owned by another guy.
04:28, Raptorjedi> He made a huge deal about it when it happened.
04:28, Chad> Lang: Maybe, most likely a unofficial version.
04:29, Languidiir> It would be cool, I have to admit, but I don't know if it's possible.
04:30, Languidiir> I would like to have a small home on a planet, or something.
04:30, Cryoburner> How about an island with monkeys?
04:30, Languidiir> what?
04:31, Chad> Monkey Island it would be called.
04:32, Languidiir> Sounds revolutionary.
04:32, Chad> Quite.
04:35, Raptorjedi> I've always wanted to play a game like Stranded, only Noctis themed. Where your Stardrifter crashes on a planet and you have to survive.
04:36, Cryoburner> Galactic Survivor mode! :D
04:36, Raptorjedi> The only problem with that is people like Stargazer and the other purists would complain about combat and such.
04:37, Cryoburner> Oh no! My stardrifter just crash landed on a planet whose surface is covered in an ocean of mercury!
04:38, Raptorjedi> I think it would be fun. Catch birds and things for food, build shelters, maybe have ruins to explore or something.
04:39, Cryoburner> Now I must build shelter and find food, so that I can capture all 150 Evowok and breed with them!
04:39, Cryoburner meant: breed them!
04:39, Cryoburner whispers: Heh heh heh. :P
04:40, Raptorjedi> But people would be all OMG Teh Noctis, it doesn't have fighting! EVILZ!
04:40, Chad> Eww
04:40, Raptorjedi> And the people who want fighting will complain that it isn't space combat, or against other races instead of fighting animals for survival.
04:44, Languidiir> Imagine making a city on top of one of those magnificent quartz mountains. That would be awesome.
04:44, Languidiir> Plus it would finally answer the question of what the heck Felysian architecture actually looks like
04:45, Cryoburner> And giant robot suits!
04:45, Chad> Crazy: http://gizmodo.com/5019323/dynamic-tower-skyscraper-every-floor-self+rotat es-powered-by-wind-and-sun
04:45, Cryoburner> Yes, I heard about that.
04:47, Chad> Kinda gay its in Moscow. :P
04:48, Cryoburner> COMPUTER: Floor rotation - 5000% speed - Initialize!
04:48, Chad> Wee1
04:49, Chad meant: WEE!
04:50, Cryoburner> COMPUTER: Maintain rotation at 100rpm!
04:53, Languidiir> that would suck
05:43, Cryoburner> In an awesome way.
05:47, Languidiir> agreed.
06:55, Languidiir> Raptor, which do you like better? NIV or NICE?
06:57, Raptorjedi> NIV. I'm not fond of NICE. It has too much feature creep in my opinion.
07:07, Languidiir> I've figured out that this computer is incapable of closing out of a fullscreen DOS program without freezing
07:13, Tom refrains from making a snide remark about how Windows is incapable of doing anything without freezing
07:14, Languidiir> But my own computer runs perfectly.
07:15, Tom> you're probably part of the Storm botnet without realizing it...
07:15, Raptorjedi refrains from making a snide remark about how both Linux and Macs fail at having games to play.
07:16, Languidiir> the what
07:16, Tom> Linux has tonnes of games, and we run tonnes more under Wine.
07:17, Tom> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Botnet
07:20, Languidiir> Linux has games? Nice joke. Try playing Spore on Linux.
07:24, Tom> Linux has games that aren't DRMtastic handcuffware
07:26, Languidiir> what
07:28, Tom> that don't have to connect to a stupid licensing server every thime you want to play, that don't limit the number of installs, use Starforce rootkits^W"protection", etc.
07:28, Languidiir> you can play games offline though
07:29, Languidiir> in fact I usually do
07:29, Tom> not Spore, though...
07:31, Tom> but check http://appdb.winehq.org/ for compatibility
07:38, Languidiir> ed c v b m shimble frog da da da shhhhhh to you too.
07:38, Languidiir> In other words, I am phenomenally bored.
07:59, Starchaser> yea well I'm so bored I'm playing RTCW:ET offline
08:05, Languidiir> explain that acronym to me
08:08, Starchaser> Return to castle Wolfenstein: enemy territory
08:08, Languidiir> okeydoke
08:09, Starchaser> Its an FPS that can be played offline but there is noone else to shoot if you do.
08:11, Languidiir> amazing
08:11, Languidiir> what the heck are you doing then
08:12, Starchaser> shooting windows :D
08:13, Starchaser> oh well at least I have disturbed playing in the background.
08:17, Languidiir> If there is a perfect being, it has no freedom of thought
08:19, Starchaser> why?
08:19, Languidiir> If it is perfect in every respect, it must follow a perfect path throughout its existence, meaning that it has a defined set of actions already in place. Therefore, it cannot make decisions for itself.
08:20, Languidiir> I did some really heavy philosophy with my friend today. :P
08:21, Starchaser> do you goto a philosophy group or something? that pretty deep.
08:21, Languidiir> Nope. Nothing of the sort.
08:23, Starchaser> oh ok.
08:23, Languidiir> Consider also that if there was a material that was indestructible, it would be completely useless.
08:25, Languidiir> Why do you think that is?
08:26, Starchaser> because you can't melt it down or change its shape. but what if the said object can be changed to become indestructable after you have chnage it to the requiered shape?
08:28, Languidiir> Implausible.
08:29, Languidiir> What kind of material could spread through an entire form like that and change its chemical structure?
08:31, Starchaser> it is possible to chnage a materials atomic structure. and just because we don't know of such means now we could someday
08:31, Languidiir> Alright, consider a material which is indestructible. Naturally, it's indestructible.
08:32, Languidiir> However, that's impossible. How would it be formed?
08:33, Languidiir> And a material that destroys everything cannot exist either, because it would destroy itself.
08:33, Languidiir> If it destroys everything but itself, it would create a vaccuum as a result of destroying the air.
08:34, Languidiir> If it was inside of a mountain, it would fall to the core of the earth and drain it.
08:34, Starchaser> it could be a form of crystal. and a material that destroys everything could not be possible but a material that destroys all light matter is.
08:36, Languidiir> You're thinking outside of the theory. D:
08:38, Languidiir> A material which is destroyed by everything would simply collapse into molecules, so you would never be able to prove it was ever part of a whole.
08:40, Starchaser> I understand that. but what is everything?
08:40, Languidiir> A material that cannot destroy anything would probably be a tensile blob, and could not exist in the same plane of existence as a material which is destroyed by everything.
08:40, Languidiir> Everything is every material in the plane of existence.
08:40, Starchaser> is it all matter or all light matter?
08:41, Languidiir> We're dealing with physical elements, not photons.
08:41, Starchaser> okay I wasn't clear on that part.
08:42, Starchaser> lol. light matter isn't photons. light matter is matter we can see and feel. where as dark and anti matter wont absorb our concept of light and we wouldn't be able to feel it either.
08:43, Starchaser> actually antimatter cancels normal matter out so forget I said anti matter in that last sentence
08:43, Languidiir> Now you're going all chemistry on me. I mean that all of the ELEMENTS in the plane would destroy/not destroy it. Again, you're going out of the theoretical.
08:46, Starchaser> I understand the theory its just you haven't stated any of the variables for it. I'm just not sure exactly what you mean by Plane either.
08:46, Languidiir> plane of existence. we're considering these impossible objects to be in a different, theoretical universe.
08:49, Languidiir> whoa, everyone came back at once.
08:50, Starchaser> now its just getting confusing. so you are stating that in a theroretical universe with the exact same laws of physics as our own there can be no matter or material that can destroy anything or everything because it would infact destroy itself before it could do any damage to other matter?
08:52, Languidiir> Look. I'm saying that these experiments with impossible materials are in different dimensions.
08:54, Languidiir> They don't exist. They're theoretical.
08:55, Raptorjedi> Are you talking about Strange Matter?
08:56, Starchaser> I understand its a theory. I am asking what sort of theoretical "Dimensions" are we conducting these "experiments"? you can't just say different dimension and expect someone to understand you.
08:56, Languidiir> I'm talking about impossible materials, like one that cannot be destroyed, one that destroys everything, one that is destroyed by everything, etc.
08:56, Languidiir> LOOK. IMAGINE WE LIVE IN A BOX. THERE'S ANOTHER BOX NEXT DOOR. THAT BOX HAS STRANGE THINGS GOING ON.
08:57, Starchaser> The antiverse theroy?
08:57, Languidiir> It's like math. All of geometry, etc. takes place in a theoretical plane, a graph. it's not real. it's just for theories.
08:57, Starchaser> or multiverse? where diffent laws of phsyics apply?
08:57, Languidiir> It's not a theory. I'm just saying imagine in some far-off place that x happens.
08:58, Languidiir> It's not applying to a theory. it's like sci-fi. i'm just saying that this takes place somewhere else.
08:59, Starchaser> okay. its just when you said they can't be possible and called it a theory thats when we went off on differnt paths
09:00, Languidiir> It's theoretical, it's in your imagination. That's all I meant.
09:01, Starchaser> okay i get you now
09:01, Languidiir> Alrighty then.
09:02, Languidiir> Also we have a color I call 'frangle', which is a color different from any in our spectrum. It's just impossible for us to describe or imagine a color different than the ones we already have.
09:03, Languidiir> Whoa! Everyone leaves at the same time, too. Scary.
09:03, Starchaser> thats because we can't percive anything differnt to the colors we know. but it is fun to try to picture it XD
09:04, Languidiir> Also, consider a sign that says "DO NOT OBEY THIS SIGN BY ORDER OF THE LAW".
09:04, Starchaser meant: the colors in our visible spectrum
09:04, Starchaser> lol a paradox
09:04, Starchaser> I love paradox's
09:05, Languidiir> a sign that says |LEFT->
09:06, Languidiir> "DO NOT READ THIS SIGN"
09:08, Starchaser> I can't do what I just did
09:10, Languidiir> exactly.
09:17, Starchaser> I hate what I love
09:31, Languidiir> There once was a man named Alex, he / Loved to search through a whole galaxy, / So he made up a game, / Which then later gained fame, / Don't know how to end this, italics, whee.
09:34, Languidiir> man it's hard to rhyme 'alex'
09:35, Languidiir> Ptoof that Santa Claus exists:
09:36, Languidiir> IF THIS SENTENCE IS TRUE THEN SANTA CLAUS EXISTS
09:36, Starchaser> that only works if santa claus is real
09:37, Languidiir> wrong
09:37, Languidiir> If the sentence is true, then santa claus exists
09:37, Languidiir> It's true that if the sentence is true, it's true
09:37, Languidiir> Therefore, since the sentence is true, santa claus exists.
09:38, Starchaser> but you can't tell if he is real or not so we don't know if the sentence is true or not.
09:38, Languidiir> But the sentence is true
09:38, Languidiir> The sentence states that if it's true, Santa Claus exists.
09:39, Languidiir> It's true that if it's true, santa claus exists
09:39, Languidiir> Therefore Santa Claus exists.
09:39, Cryoburner liights Languidiir on fiire.
09:39, Languidiir> why?
09:40, Starchaser> for fun of course.
09:40, Cryoburner> Because I can.
09:40, Starchaser slaps himself around with a rather large trout for a bit
09:41, Cryoburner points to the user bar.
09:42, Languidiir> THIS SENTENCE IS FALSE
09:42, Languidiir> What about it?
09:43, Starchaser> that one is just trippy
09:43, Starchaser> WOAH UR ORANGE!!!
09:43, Languidiir> what are you talking about
09:43, Languidiir> oh jesus everyone's changed colors what the helll
09:44, Cryoburner begins meltdown sequence.
09:44, Starchaser> for some reason your display name is orange for some reason but your Freespych name is still purple claw
09:44, Starchaser> oh I bet its Cryo's doing
09:45, Cryoburner has no idea.
09:45, Starchaser> is mine orange aswell?
09:46, Cryoburner whispers: Oh yeah, you can only see your own name if you enable that option. :P
09:47, Languidiir> (1) THIS SENTENCE CONTAINS FIVE WORDS (2) THIS SENTENCE CONTAINS EIGHT WORDS (3) EXACTLY ONE SENTENCE ON THIS CARD IS TRUE
09:47, Starchaser> theres and option for that?
09:48, Cryoburner> Set site preferences -> show me my name online
09:48, Starchaser> yer i just found it a second ago
09:51, Starchaser> Yay i'm blue again
09:51, Cryoburner> Thrilling!
09:52, Starchaser> but not just any blue. LIGHTNINGBLUE!!!
09:53, Languidiir> i am purple.
09:55, Starchaser> http://www.anywherebb.com/postline/posts.php?t=3446
09:57, Languidiir> gah, I keep chewing on my shirt
09:59, Starchaser> and you do that why?
09:59, Languidiir> Subconsciously because I like to work my jaw.
10:01, Starchaser> Riggggght
10:02, Languidiir> yep. so now I have gum.
10:03, Starchaser> lucky... I wish I had gum.
10:04, Languidiir> wow, this substellar object has a 40-epoc year
10:05, Languidiir> that's way, way longer than a lifetime
10:07, Starchaser> thats more like 7 lifetimes
10:07, Starchaser> (thats including my generations life expectancy)
10:07, Starchaser> lol
10:09, Languidiir> I can't believe that this thing won't let me play GTA IV if I don't download the update. What if I didn't have the internet?
10:12, Starchaser> How the hell do you work chatzilla?
10:12, Languidiir> what?
10:15, Starchaser> Damn ill just load mIRC
10:17, Starchaser> no I won't ill use Project 1
10:17, Starchaser> aka Hacirc2
10:22, Starchaser> best noctis addition
10:23, Languidiir> what is it?
10:24, Starchaser> A program that lets you use the noctis console to chat in #noktis channel.
10:25, Languidiir> awesome
10:26, Starchaser> yea megamade it... but its only for NICE. that why I play both of them
10:39, Languidiir> g
10:39, Languidiir> G is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
10:40, Languidiir> H is just as bad as G, it's the loneliest number since the number G
10:59, Starchaser> wtf. they're letters not numbers
11:00, Azuraun2> Maybe he's counting in base 18? :P
11:00, Starchaser> maybe
11:18, Languidiir> Framb.
12:23, Languidiir> Anyone have anything interesting to do?
12:31, Starchaser> watch house?
12:32, Languidiir> I don't watch TV.
12:33, Starchaser> WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT!!!
12:36, Starchaser> why?
12:37, Magnulus> Because TV is a dead medium? It's passive and choiceless and incapacitating.
12:37, Magnulus> I don't hold with it myself. I'll watch TV SHOWS, but on DVD or BBC's iPlayer.
12:39, Starchaser> I usually watch them on DVD but some I can't wait until it comes out on DVD.
12:40, Starchaser> besides there are 5 channels to choose from. one is going to be shut down soon so make that 4. man my countrys Channels suck
12:43, Starchaser> god damn digital tv
13:01, Languidiir> what country
13:05, Starchaser> The land of Oz
13:10, Starchaser> Anyway I gtg. Lots of fruit to eat... mmmm healty eating.
13:10, Starchaser> bye yall
15:32, Megagun> 04:14, Raptorjedi> I wonder what the teaser on www.blizzard.com is about. Some suspect it has something to do with the next WoW expansion (which makes sense, the ice and all) others about Diablo 3
15:33, Megagun> The runes are from Diablo, yet one of them seems to also appear on Frostmourne.
15:33, Megagun> But they might aswell be making a Lost Vikings 2.. :P Which would be awesome!
15:57, Fth> Why? The PC version looks good enough, no need for a remake. Or did you just play the watered down SNES one?
15:57, Fth> Runes are from Diablo, WoW and Starcraft
16:01, Megagun> Because they're Blizzard?
16:07, Fth> Maybe they're annoouncing a new game, that'd be col
16:07, Fth> And by col I mean awesome
16:52, Raptorjedi> Lost Vikings 3, there already was a 2. :P
16:54, Deanfrz> Haha, those Vikings, always getting into trouble
16:54, Deanfrz> Alien Abduction again?
20:06, Mcwgogs> http://apina.kubitus.org/7948.jpg
20:09, Fth> Mmmh... so true
20:09, Fth hugs McWgogs for making a crappy day a bit easier to bear