July 01, 2008
daily UTC chat log for Anywherebb (Postline 6.1.30)

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14:10, Trad.a meant: to take out the rubbish. Darn.
22:16, Azuraun2> I've noticed choppy scrolling too, I think it happens on pages with lots of images or content. I think turning my resolution down fixed it, but I don't like doing that >.>
22:21, Chad> Only had that problem here, never noticed it anywhere else. Of course I don't pay much attention to it.
22:22, Chad> Plus it takes longer to switch tabs to this site. I blame frames.
22:23, Azuraun2> Hmm... You're right, never noticed that. Pretty small delay though.
22:24, Chad> This site has like 15 frames... :P
23:56, Cryoburner> It's not Alex's fault that Firefox is slow. :P
00:00, Cryoburner> It's likely caused by Firefox's handling of the large background images.
00:00, Cryoburner> If you set your site preferences to a simple theme for now, like Grey or Black, scrolling should be fast again.
00:09, Chad> But its so.... Plain!
00:09, Cryoburner> You can also go to Tools > Options > General in Firefox and untick 'Use Smooth Scrolling'.
00:11, Cryoburner whispers: Make that Tools > Options > Advanced > General.
00:12, Chad> Mine was, when its checked it super slow.
00:13, Cryoburner> Or use Opera, which scrolls fine even with smooth scrolling enabled. : )
00:15, Chad> We'll, that was weird. FF3 just closed instantly with no warning or anything... O_o
00:16, Chad> That was the fastest I've seen anything close, took half a second.
00:53, Azuraun2> I'm using the Opera right now. Funky interface. Opera can do all the things I use firefox for, and hopefully won't crash as much. if mozilla can fix the bugs in FF3, I might switch back. :/
01:54, Battlefrank8> hey, can any stardrifters here give me some lithium? I sorta ran out. I'm at 239302;2732515;1237909 your reward is discovery of one of the hottest planets I've seen , which is right in front of me.
01:55, Azuraun2> Noctis isn't multiplayer, if that's what you're getting at :P
01:58, Battlefrank8> oh man, so I just sit here and die?
01:58, Azuraun2> No, go to onboard devices -> emergency functions -> send help request.
01:59, Azuraun2> An npc SD will come and give you a few grams of lithium
02:00, Battlefrank8> but what if the robot driving it comes with a "destroy all fleysians" attitude? I don't wanna get cannoned!
02:00, Deanfrz> Then you goto S06 and gas up.
02:00, Battlefrank8> ok
02:00, Battlefrank8> they should allow me to go fine appreach a star.
02:01, Azuraun2> ...But he's out of fuel? O_o
02:01, Raptorjedi> Yeah, pay attention to your fuel so you don't have to go call for help.
02:01, Battlefrank8> It seems to almost immediately run out when the target is over 5000 light years away
02:02, Raptorjedi> Short hops. If you travel over too far of a distance it eats up fuel faster.
02:02, Battlefrank8> also
02:02, Battlefrank8> the outside here is incredibly hot
02:02, Battlefrank8> how is life support still working?
02:03, Azuraun2> Yeah, it'll take forever to accelerate, but whe you reach top speed you'll be going insanely fast. Make sure you have enough fuel to get to the insanely fast phase :)
02:04, Azuraun2> Felysians have biosuits with integrated life support, the technology is miraculous.
02:04, Battlefrank8> yes, but how is the ship doing it, with no power?
02:05, Deanfrz> Reserves, silly!
02:05, Raptorjedi> It has enough reserves to keep things running
02:07, Deanfrz> haha, first
02:07, Battlefrank8> well, luckily, the robot wasn't hellbent on killing me.
02:08, Azuraun2> Robot? Wha?
02:08, Raptorjedi> It's piloted by an NPC felisian, not a robot. Also, the cannon doesn't exist anymore.
02:09, Azuraun2> Some say the SD's aren't piloted by anyone at all :P
02:09, Raptorjedi> That's just what they want you to think.
02:10, Azuraun2> Hmm, wonder if fuel probes would fit in Twilight.
02:12, Battlefrank8> are felisian worlds rare?
02:12, Raptorjedi> Not really, no
02:12, Azuraun2> In some cases, yeah
02:13, Battlefrank8> OK, because I found about 4 unnamed ones in about an hour.
02:13, Raptorjedi> It depends on the star type really. Some star types have none, others almost always have at least one.
02:13, Azuraun2> Felysian world's around brown dwarfs are nice... Bit dim though.
02:16, Battlefrank8> NICE says you can join chat with portable GOES, but I have yet to find out how.
02:16, Azuraun2> Think there's a thread on that somewhere...
02:16, Raptorjedi> You need to have HacIRC running at the same time. It should be right there in the same folder (I think, don't use NICE)
02:22, Battlefrank8> why not use NICE? is there something wrong with it?
02:23, Raptorjedi> I just prefer the original.
02:32, Battlefrank8> when I try to run HacIRC, it just freezes up with a white screen.
02:37, Battlefrank8> and then starts working only to disconnect.
02:37, Raptorjedi> Not sure what could be causing the problem.
02:40, Raptorjedi> When it starts up, it should show a window asking you to put in the address of the server and all that.
02:40, Battlefrank8> it does that
02:41, Battlefrank8> then when I continue, it does the white screen for a while/disconnect thing
02:42, Raptorjedi> Likely because you are trying to connect to claw.homeunix.org, which doesn't exist anymore.
02:42, Battlefrank8> nope
02:43, Battlefrank8 whispers: noktis
02:43, Battlefrank8> it's #noktis
02:45, Deanfrz> I hope that's not the server your trying to connect to
02:45, Raptorjedi> What server are you connecting to? #noktis is the channel
02:46, Battlefrank8> ownage.n00bstories.com
02:46, Battlefrank8> port 6667
02:47, Raptorjedi> I can connect just fine through HacIRC, but I haven't seen you in the channel so I dunno what's wrong.\
02:49, Battlefrank8> disconect(ping timeout)
02:50, Raptorjedi> Sounds like a problem with your connection somewhere then.
02:50, Battlefrank8> I don't think I have to forward ports for this...
03:16, Chad> Hmm..... a countdown clock with a planet behind it... http://www.crypticstudios.com/
03:17, Chad> Star Trek Online is coming. w00t!
03:22, Raptorjedi> Lies
03:36, Chad> Same image.
05:00, Battlefrank8> I have fuel problems, on a full tank, going for somewhere 90800 LY away INSTANTLY drains all my fuel before the star I was at even disapears...
05:09, Battlefrank8> sitting on the roof of the stardrifter unfortunately doesn't make a reply come any faster. I don't know why I did that in hopes that I would get a reply sooner.
05:37, Zjc92> Because sitting on the roof makes things go faster. Also, painting stripes on the side.
05:39, Starchaser> your thinking of lightning bolts and flames.
05:39, Zjc92> Oh of course, what must have I been thinking. :P
05:40, Tacogeddon> Or painting it red, ya git. :P
05:40, Zjc92> I just KNEW you'd say that, Taco. :P
05:40, Tacogeddon> STARDRIFTA.
05:42, Zjc92> More like: WOOSHY BOXY FING IN SPACE.
05:43, Tacogeddon> That would be a Krooza, get it right Humie!
05:43, Starchaser> I replaced to Landing cupola with two fully sick sub woffas maaate.
05:43, Zjc92 is shamed.
05:43, Zjc92> So now you can't land, but you can blast...Felisian music? :P
05:44, Starchaser> Damn straight. lol
05:44, Tacogeddon> Ork landing procedures say to slam the craft into the surface. :P
05:46, Starchaser> That could work. ill just rip out the white pasty food creator in the back and replace it with a door.
05:57, Battlefrank8> I have fuel problems, on a full tank, going for somewhere 90800 LY away INSTANTLY drains all my fuel before the star I was at even disapears...(repost because AFK and missed whatever answers you gave.)
05:58, Zjc92> Here's the plain and simple answer: Call for help and don't try to jump that far again.
05:58, Battlefrank8> but how do I get there?
05:58, Battlefrank8> I am hell bent on making it to fuel 78
05:58, Zjc92> System by system.
05:58, Battlefrank8> ...
05:59, Zjc92> The long, painful, scenic way. :P
05:59, Battlefrank8> that will take days, maybe even months
05:59, Battlefrank8> and how am I going to keep the correct direction?
05:59, Zjc92> Well, if you don't have the patience for that, I wonder why you started Noctis. :P
06:00, Battlefrank8> but how will I keep direction?
06:00, Zjc92> Just target the place occasionally and make sure you're going the right way.
06:00, Starchaser> noctis mapper can help you plan a journey.
06:02, Zjc92> Yeah, I do love Noctismapper.
06:03, Starchaser> when I wanted to get to the northern most point of teh galaxy I made several 2000 LY jumps
06:03, Battlefrank8> fuel 78 isn't listed...
06:05, Starchaser> Thats not right. did you name it yourself?
06:07, Battlefrank8> no.
06:08, Starchaser> then it should be listed
06:08, Battlefrank8> but it isn't
06:10, Starchaser> did you load all stars?
06:10, Battlefrank8> ?
06:10, Battlefrank8> what do you mean?
06:11, Battlefrank8> how do I make it do that?
06:12, Battlefrank8> hello?
06:16, Starchaser> Oh wait are you using noctis mapper or Noctis itself?
06:17, Battlefrank8> noctis mapper
06:18, Starchaser> goto to the Data menu and click load Data
06:19, Battlefrank8> I already did that.
06:20, Starchaser> and in the right panel did you search for fuel 78?
06:22, Battlefrank8> yes
06:23, Starchaser> which one are you looking for?
06:23, Battlefrank8> fuel 78
06:24, Starchaser> well if its not in the mapper and you didn't name it then it doesn't exist.
06:24, Battlefrank8> it shows up in noctis though
06:25, Battlefrank8> and NICE
06:26, Battlefrank8> so it exists.
06:26, Tacogeddon> Wait, did YOU name it?
06:26, Battlefrank8> no
06:27, Starchaser> damn I'm outta lithium.
06:27, Tacogeddon> Well still, a 90,000+ Lightyear jump is going to be impossible in one shot.
06:28, Battlefrank8> if it helps, when I tried to go there, it said 90800 ly
06:28, Battlefrank8> yes, but I want to make plans for it
06:29, Starchaser> that is odd. I found it aswell.
06:30, Starchaser> and I got some nice sceen shots of another drifter
06:30, Tacogeddon> 90,000 LY is only 10,000 LY from the diameter of the Milky Way. :P
06:30, Battlefrank8> and can YOU find fuel 78 in noctis mapper?
06:31, Zjc92> THE MORE YOU KNOW.
06:31, Starchaser> I cant see it in the mapper
06:32, Battlefrank8> this is wierd
06:32, Starchaser> i'm going to give it a shot when i got a full tank
06:32, Zjc92 whispers: Really? I think that it's weird. :P
06:33, Tacogeddon> The wiki article says that Feltyrion is 90,000 LY in size, so that doesn't make much sense.
06:34, Starchaser> how so?
06:35, Zjc92> Uhh, in that he was jumping OUT of the galaxy.
06:35, Tacogeddon> Well if the Galaxy is 90,000 LY, you couldn't target a 90,800 jump. :P
06:36, Battlefrank8> 90k is probably a rounded number
06:36, Tacogeddon> You'd be the first in intergalactic space! But then you'd die...
06:38, Starchaser> you forget that there are 3 dimensions of movement.
06:38, Battlefrank8> but noctismapper seems to only show the center.
06:39, Tacogeddon> That's true, but I don't think we know the "thickness" size of the galaxy. :P
06:39, Starchaser> you could be onthe top of the galaxy nad at the furthest edge and goto the bottom of the galaxy and the other edge
06:40, Zjc92> Hm, that is a good point.
06:40, Battlefrank8> any way to make the mapper show more than the center?
06:41, Zjc92> Actually, I think that's all there is.
06:41, Tacogeddon> Well game-wise, I don't think the galaxy has a central bulge or anything. I think it's "officially" labeled as Irregular.
06:42, Tacogeddon> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/GalaxyNGC1427A_HubbleImage.j pg Like so. :P
06:42, Battlefrank8> no, there's more...
06:42, Battlefrank8> there has to be
06:42, Starchaser> yes I belive it is some sort of super star cluster that has no actual center Gravity
06:43, Tacogeddon> Yeah, the galaxy is like a giant cloud of stars with no arms or other defined shapes.
06:43, Starchaser> there are more stars but those are the only ones cataloged and they give a basic idea ofhwo the galaxy is shaped
06:51, Battlefrank8> no, fuel 78 is out there...
06:53, Starchaser> maybe its not in the galaxy
06:53, Starchaser> a glitch
06:54, Battlefrank8> a glitch? I doubt a glitch would have a name as complex as fuel 78.
06:55, Battlefrank8> this is no glitch, this is EXTREME MADNESS.
06:56, Tacogeddon> I think there are a ton of stars that have the name "Fuel" followed by a number. It was somebody who named a ton of S06 stars. :P
06:56, Tacogeddon> Probably the same person who named all the "Askew" systems.
07:05, Tacogeddon> Besides, all the Fuel stars are just that, S06 stars, they won't have planets. :P
07:05, Starchaser> it exists. but my computer keeps telling me its out of range so I can't even do a direct parsis jump.
07:14, Battlefrank8> It tries to in NICE
07:14, Battlefrank8> but I completely run out of fuel in a split second
07:17, Starchaser> lol. my first SO0 star and theres a felysian world.
07:18, Starchaser> GO GO POWER RANGERS!!! and Trundel wheel. there i feel better now
07:19, Tacogeddon> http://i27.tinypic.com/10xy8w7.jpg I'm blind!
07:21, Battlefrank8> it's 3:30 in the morning where I live, gotta sleep.
07:22, Battlefrank8> it's alright, though, I still got 2 months of summer vacation. Just a few more years and I will be out of high school. that means no more summer vacations...
07:23, Battlefrank8> goodnight, internet!
08:59, Azuraun2> that pangea thing is using about 380k of ram and 95 CPU... How long does it take for the world to generate? O_o
09:01, Starchaser> I think thats minimum. if you had those settings it would probably take ages but.
09:03, Azuraun2> What settings?
09:05, Starchaser> the ones you just said.
09:06, Azuraun2> Huh? I was saying what the task manager said.
09:07, Starchaser> oh. I didn't soend enough time on the website to check the system requiements so I just assumend. oh well.
09:07, Starchaser meant: spend
09:14, Starchaser> woo. just uploaded two more pages to my website. barely any content but its moving along. :D
09:40, Starchaser> I need to fix some of the grammar though.
18:30, Battlefrank8> I have a possibly great idea for a noctis mod.
18:30, Battlefrank8> inspired by jdoom, which changes sprites in doom to 3d models.
18:31, Battlefrank8> why not make a noctis sourceport thingy that does the same thing?
18:31, Battlefrank8> I will go start making models of stuff on planets incase anyone picks up on this and NEEDS models.
18:39, Battlefrank8> piece of grass is in progress! YES! someday the work I make here will make a DIFFERENCE!
18:43, Duskesko> i think you should stop talking while you are ahead
18:43, Duskesko> the people of this community will eat you alive
18:43, Duskesko> no, i will not explain. i simply warn you.
18:45, Tacogeddon> Besides, many things in noctis ARE 3d, including animals.
18:45, Duskesko> i think he just wants something HI DEFFF
18:45, Battlefrank8> but low quality textures.
18:45, Duskesko> >_>
18:45, Battlefrank8> lol
18:46, Tacogeddon> Because there are billions of variations.
18:46, Duskesko> apart from the fact that Noctis doesnt even render nerly the same as most games, well... there's just the simple "no thanks"
18:46, Duskesko meant: nearly
18:46, Battlefrank8> to tell you the truth, grass and trees are likely best left to a random generation system.
18:46, Tacogeddon> The magic of procedural this n' thats. :P
18:47, Battlefrank8> so
18:47, Battlefrank8> I should work on the hopppers or something
18:47, Battlefrank8> I think my idea will work
18:47, Battlefrank8> it worked with the sourceport jdoom.
18:47, Duskesko> here, go to work on this http://www.gamedev.net/community/gds/viewentry.asp?projectid=497738
18:48, Duskesko> frank, this is not a doom engine. a good bit of it was hand coded in assembly by the master of all that is eccentric.
18:49, Tacogeddon> In short, it's run by aether and phlogiston, and should only be handled by engineers from the proper universe. :P
18:50, Battlefrank8> jdoom is a heavily modded doom engine, though. so isn't it possible to mod noctis this way? I think so.
18:51, Battlefrank8> change some graphics things, replace the textures whit high res stuff... I still believe this can work.
18:54, Duskesko> so you make textures and models?
18:56, Duskesko> Tell ya what, you find where Noctis loads its textures and models from and you can go to town on this project.
19:03, Duskesko> Frank, it's a fun idea, retexturing and remodeling Noctis and/or fitting it with a new rendering engine.
19:04, Battlefrank8> yes it is.
19:04, Duskesko> But, I'm afraid its just not possible without a SERIOUS rewrite of the entire piece of software. It just wasn't designed for that.
19:05, Battlefrank8> that's what they said to GUY who did AWESOME THING before he did it. Probably.
19:05, Duskesko> I am a programmer in college and I will tell you right now that such things just aren't feasible.
19:06, Duskesko> You could take the core rules of the game and implement it yourself in another way and then build a texture / model loading engine.
19:06, Tacogeddon> But of course, help on the New Noctis sequel would always be nice.
19:07, Duskesko> Yea
19:08, Tacogeddon> Kinda makes me wish I could draw or something, I have plenty of ideas for creatures. :P
19:08, Battlefrank8> OK, I could do that.
19:08, Duskesko> Alright, now just bust open the source code and look at the parts that are in assembly and go "WTF does this do?"
19:09, Duskesko> Anyway, I have to get to bed. I have work tonight.
19:09, Tacogeddon would like to see floating gas bag creatures.
19:09, Duskesko wants to go hunting gas bag creatures with a dart gun.
19:09, Battlefrank8> like the ones in UT2004 invasion?
19:10, Battlefrank8> which is stripped from UT3 thanks to consoles...
19:10, Battlefrank8> along with assault...
19:13, Tacogeddon> I think Serpens said I should have written all my creature ideas down, and I did in a TXT...I wonder if I still have that...
19:14, Serpens> Find it!
19:14, Tacogeddon> DON'T HIT ME.
19:14, Battlefrank8> and I am strugling to get HacIRC working...
19:15, Serpens> Find this .txt and I'll spare you. :P
19:15, Tacogeddon flips through his massive TXT folders of ideas.
19:16, Battlefrank8> just getting it to do something in noctis is hard enough.
19:17, Serpens> Perhaps you'd also have an idea how to *efficiently* browse all the texts on www.archive.org?
19:17, Serpens never used HacIRC and can't help
19:17, Tacogeddon> I remember that I had an idea for a species that would hibernate so long that it grew litte eco-systems on it.
19:18, Tacogeddon> WHY IS THIS HILL MOVING.
19:18, Battlefrank8> wait
19:19, Battlefrank8> has tacogeddon ever used HacIRC?
19:19, Tacogeddon has not.
19:20, Serpens> I'd ask Megagun.
19:21, Megagun> Changing the renderer in Noctis IV isn't feasible.
19:22, Megagun> Also, JDOOM doesn't "change" or "convert" sprites into 3d models. Users have painstakingly made new models to represent the old sprites, and those are then loaded by JDOOM.
19:22, Megagun> Noctis IV already uses 3d models.
19:33, Tacogeddon> Heh, I had made a creature that had a symbiotic plant in it. :P
19:45, Tacogeddon> http://i28.tinypic.com/sxj39c.jpg Coldest unstable world I've ever seen.